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I just learned to make the laptop type in Japanese! On purpose, not like when i was in Japan and did it a lot in such a way that not even Japanese people could fix it.

すごい、よ〜!

It even does the thing where i hit space and it changes my kana into Kanji! SO COOL. Shockingly, this is not helping me write my JE_Holiday fic. However, i have a strange hotkey question. my little menu bar dropdown says the following:



what on earth key is "^"? Because I make ^ by hitting shift+6, and that is for sure not how i produce Japanese on my computer.

Date: 2007-12-02 03:28 am (UTC)
ext_30546: (Default)
From: [identity profile] spurious.livejournal.com
^ is the control key, if I remember right.

Date: 2007-12-02 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousapelli.livejournal.com
Hmm, I still can't get it to go with hotkeys.

Maybe I can just switch it someplace without actually figuring out the initial functionality.

Date: 2007-12-02 03:32 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] spurious.livejournal.com
You should be able to switch it if you go to "open international" in the dropdown and then click "keyboard shortcuts".

Date: 2007-12-02 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousapelli.livejournal.com
ah, got it! やった! ありがとう〜 coincidentally, i also got rid of the Spotlight hotkeys while i was there, which i hated anyhow.

Date: 2007-12-02 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bouncy.livejournal.com
Is this a mac only thing?

Date: 2007-12-02 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousapelli.livejournal.com
no, i'm sure anybody can do it, but I only know directions for doing it on a mac.

But probably there is a control panel somewhere for it. Mine was called "Input" and was a submenu under the keyboard preferences. I googled and found directions right away.

Date: 2007-12-02 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bouncy.livejournal.com
やった!

Alas. I figured out how to get it to work but I now need to practice my Japanese. :| >_>;;

Date: 2007-12-02 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousapelli.livejournal.com
う〜ん、私も!しょうがない、よ。。。

Date: 2007-12-02 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bouncy.livejournal.com
やくしてください? ^^;

Date: 2007-12-02 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousapelli.livejournal.com
"yup, me too! It can't be helped, yo..."

hilariously, i didn't know what やくして meant, so I went to type it into the little translator, but when i hit space, it kanjified it into 訳して, which was identical to the "Translate!" button. LOL.

curiously, atashi and watashi kanjify into the same thing. I was kind of indignant, because i wanted the girly version!

Date: 2007-12-02 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bouncy.livejournal.com
I used animelab translator and I'm not even going to say what it said. O_o Do you use a translator in particular? I was copying out of my Japanese phrase book. >_>

AHAHAHA! Well, you'll never forget it again~

I have so much to learn. :|

Date: 2007-12-02 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousapelli.livejournal.com
not really, I just only use words I know. うん is sort of colloquial, and しょうがない is a phrase you just kind of pick up, i don't even think it's in my dictionary. Which is silly, because Japanese people say "it can't be helped" all the damn time, but it's an informal compression of something real, so. I'm not surprised you got something bizarre.

I certainly won't! But that's how I learn everything, so XD

がんばって、よ!日本語わおもいしろいです、ね?
(おもいしろい=interesting/fun)

Date: 2007-12-02 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bouncy.livejournal.com
I should really recognise うん since a character I RP says 'un' all the dane time in the manga. I think I need a better dictionary - it is more of a guide if you go to Japan, its good but not very good for learning, aha.

はい!あの。。。にほんごわあまりはなせません。^^;

(I doubt that came out right but it is supposed to say 'I don't speak much Japanese.' at the end. >.<)

Date: 2007-12-02 10:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowqueenofhoth.livejournal.com
Yup, it's right!

But both of you need to replace the わ with は. It's read as "wa" but not written as such.

Also, おもしろい。

Good luck! :D

I totally have never figured out the ^ thing either. It doesn't make sense... :P

Date: 2007-12-02 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bouncy.livejournal.com
I was actually wondering about はand was wondering why it was different.

ありがとう~

Date: 2007-12-02 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousapelli.livejournal.com
Because mousie is a moron~

Date: 2007-12-02 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousapelli.livejournal.com
haha, oh yeah...I knew it didn't look right, but I was soooo tired...hence also the lack of correct おもしろい.

Shockingly, while I was snuggled in bed, the rats didn't have any spelling corrections to offer.

the ^ is indeed control, it just didn't do anything in terms of switching. I think it conflicts with too many application hotkeys to be a universal one. Now I have apple+space set to "revert to last input" and option+apple+space set to "next input on list" and it all works just fine.

今日キーボードは日本です〜!
(Does 今日 need a particle when you use it like that? because I know it's "今日はここで眠りたい." Should it be 今日は、キーボードが。。。?)

It's really disturbing how I learn half my Japanese from KAT-TUN...

Date: 2007-12-03 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowqueenofhoth.livejournal.com
I sort of suck with particles, but I think you're okay without.

However, you said "today, the keyboard is Japan," which... doesn't make much sense. XD

I think you'd need to rearrange the sentence a bit or use something else... or stuck in another particle.

I'm still fairly beginner, but maybe:

今日、キーボードは日本のです。Today, the keyboard is a Japanese one.

今日、キーボードは日本ぽいです。Today, the keyboard is Japanese-like.

今日、キーボードは日本けいです。Today, the keyboard is Japanese-style.

今日、キーボードは日本のキーボードです。Today, the keyboard is a Japanese keyboard.

Or something like that.

Could be so wrong.

Date: 2007-12-03 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowqueenofhoth.livejournal.com
Oh, also, I changed mine to the spacebar, as well. XD

No idea how the control key works, other than as my right-click.

Date: 2008-10-15 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousapelli.livejournal.com
lol, another comment brought me back to this post, and i just started laughing, because during the summer you were all "OOOOU your computer switches to Japanese the same way as mine! Lucky!" and i was like "That's so odd!"

LMAO. WE FAIL.

Date: 2007-12-02 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bouncy.livejournal.com
はい!あの。。。日本語わあまり話せません。

*\o/*

がんばって!

Date: 2007-12-02 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousapelli.livejournal.com
Yes! aside from the は again. I love the "KANJIFY" functionality. I've been typing in random things just to see what comes up!

In terms of dictionary, I was using the Random House one that I bought at random at a Borders when I first started trying to figure things out, and although it's in no way what a serious Japanese student needs, I found it did everything I needed until just recently. I only outgrew it when I started needing to find more Kanji instead of sounding things out.

So if you're looking for something that won't cost you a million dollars but is pretty functional, that one worked well for me.

When we were in Japan, Tabs's accent was so good people would start rattling things off to her, and we'd have to be like "あの。。。ちょっと日本語。。。”

Ironically, aside from "りょへいくんだいすき!" it was probably the Japanese phrase I used the most successfully.

Date: 2007-12-02 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousapelli.livejournal.com
you're just jealous KAT-TUN isn't teaching YOU all your 日本語.

although i think they said something about you wanting to sleep here today...

Date: 2007-12-02 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shinigamitabris.livejournal.com
i don't know if i could stand the キラキラ

Date: 2008-10-15 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j3nt1sh.livejournal.com
how to do this? O_O

Date: 2008-10-15 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousapelli.livejournal.com
well, i have a mac, so I dunno what exactly yours'll look like. But in my control panel one of the options is "input" and then i can tell it to list both English and Japanese as options, and then to display the little flag in my menu bar so i can switch between them.

And then i set a hot key to switch because it was easier.

Date: 2008-10-16 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j3nt1sh.livejournal.com
oh i use windows. xD

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